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#31 badboy00z

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 01:38 PM

View PostBangdoll, on Nov 12 2007, 03:14 AM, said:

View Postbadboy00z, on Nov 12 2007, 01:01 AM, said:

I don't believe the YF-19 and YF-21 had "hyperspace" drives. They had to use fold boosters.

Bah, terminology. They perform the same function. I prefer to call them hyperspace drives because when the YF-19 did its jump in Mac Plus, it goes through that weird region of colored lights that is normally associated with hyperspace in popular media.

View Postbadboy00z, on Nov 12 2007, 01:01 AM, said:

I can't wait for Yamato to release a 1/60 scale or a Bandai perfect grade kit! In my dreams. Lol.

PG may be a bit tough, but a Yamato 1/60 is pretty likely. Yeah, I'd get one too. Can't resist them VFs.

Not what I meant. You said the YF-19/21 has hyperspace drives so I thought you meant they had them internally integrated. Which isn't the case so I mentioned fold boosters.

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 01:49 PM

View PostMindless, on Nov 12 2007, 02:53 AM, said:

Looks awsome in Gerwalk but the Battroid mode looks screwed up. What's with the torso?  :huh:

The torso resembles that of the SV-51 and YF-19. IMO the battroid mode looks pretty damn good. It doesn't look like a plane at all like some of the other VFs. Maybe if it didn't have such a skinny torso it would look better.

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 12:32 AM

View PostTMBounty_Hunter, on Nov 9 2007, 08:36 PM, said:

View PostGundamn0b1, on Nov 9 2007, 05:43 PM, said:

It has better music and looks 100X better than Gundam 00.
why is there always a need to compare things? especially when they are completely different


why is there a need to ask questions?
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 12:34 AM

I find it interesting that the new Valkyries actually split apart and reform when they transform.  I guess the toys will have tear-apart transformations?

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 06:12 PM

View PostGundamn0b1, on Nov 13 2007, 03:32 AM, said:

why is there a need to ask questions?

sure there is a need to ask questions, but that is completely different from judging a show based on a few pictures,  a short trailer, comparing it to something completely unrelated and then dismissing it as a failure before it even began.

save the bitching for when it actually starts airing
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 07:29 AM

View PostGundamn0b1, on Nov 13 2007, 02:32 AM, said:

View PostTMBounty_Hunter, on Nov 9 2007, 08:36 PM, said:

View PostGundamn0b1, on Nov 9 2007, 05:43 PM, said:

It has better music and looks 100X better than Gundam 00.
why is there always a need to compare things? especially when they are completely different


why is there a need to ask questions?
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 08:48 AM

View PostMaullarMaullar, on Nov 13 2007, 03:34 AM, said:

I find it interesting that the new Valkyries actually split apart and reform when they transform.  I guess the toys will have tear-apart transformations?

No they don't.  Check the trailer video (from the first post) at 1:29.  There are two sets of swing-bars:

First set connects the legs to the nose, just forward of the cockpit (Actually it's not exactly a "swing-bar", it looks like the lower-back part of the nose assembly hinges forward with the legs...)
Second set connects the chest to the nose, near the back of the cockpit - Seems like it may actually be the same pivot point as the first...  (These "swingbars" are actually the pointy forward bits of the fuselage to the left and right of the cockpit in fighter mode...)

So the first set causes the legs to hinge forward, from their initial position just aft of the cockpit to their new position below the cockpit.  The second set rotates the whole cockpit-assembly around so it can tuck itself neatly under the folded-up fuselage.  With the nose section reoriented, the legs wind up in front of the cockpit...

I think it's an interesting design.  There's elements of other VFs in there - the folding nose from the '19 or the SV-51...  legs are a bit YF-21ish...  The design does a good job of organizing and rearranging its bulk - better than the VF-1 or VF-0 designs did...  The fuselage width, for instance, was always a problem with those designs.  Too narrow and it looked bad in fighter mode, too wide and it looked bad in battroid mode...  So transforming versions always had to compromise.  I think there's a lot less compromise in how the VF-25 works.  It's like they took the cool bits of the SV-51 and turned it into something that looks a little more heroic in battroid mode.

Seriously...  Compare SV-51 and VF-25 side-by-side...  For the fighter, remove those awful canards from the '51...  For the battroid, scale down the SV-51 shoulders drastically, replace the head, and make the chest a tad narrower...  It's not a match but the similarities are very obvious...
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:10 PM

I certainly hope this'll be better than Macross 0.

I still find it weird that the VF-0 looked more advance than the VF-1, now the VF-25. Plus the VF-25 Battroid isnt really too appealing; too much influence from the VF-0 and looks Patlabor-ish.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:15 PM

View Postragnarokk1977, on Nov 14 2007, 06:10 PM, said:

I certainly hope this'll be better than Macross 0.

I still find it weird that the VF-0 looked more advance than the VF-1

<shrug>  Just repeat to yourself "it's just a show: I should really just relax"...

These things happen when you make a prequel to a 20 year old TV show...  Well, unless that TV show is "Votoms".  :D  But I think you're confusing "advanced" with "detailed".  The VF-0 doesn't look more advanced (not as far as I can tell) it just is more detailed...
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:09 PM

Well, i'm excited.
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 03:00 PM

View Posttetsujin, on Nov 15 2007, 07:15 AM, said:

View Postragnarokk1977, on Nov 14 2007, 06:10 PM, said:

I certainly hope this'll be better than Macross 0.

I still find it weird that the VF-0 looked more advance than the VF-1

<shrug>  Just repeat to yourself "it's just a show: I should really just relax"...

These things happen when you make a prequel to a 20 year old TV show...  Well, unless that TV show is "Votoms".  :D  But I think you're confusing "advanced" with "detailed".  The VF-0 doesn't look more advanced (not as far as I can tell) it just is more detailed...
I stand corrected. Maybe "detailed" is what I was trying to say. :) And yeah I know "it's just a show" but I still find it odd if not weird. Maybe because its got CG and all. But dont take me wrong, I still love Macross all the way. :P
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 12:20 AM

VF-25 transforming sequence.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:03 AM

So, it does actually separate?

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:45 AM

No. There's 2 swing arm things that holds it together.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 05:23 AM

View Postbadboy00z, on Nov 16 2007, 06:45 AM, said:

No. There's 2 swing arm things that holds it together.

I like everything about the VF-25 except for the side fins on its head. They are too extravagant.  Wish they'd gone more in the tradition of old VF-01s, or something like the VF-0's fins.
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