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1/48 Acad F-22 Raptor Long term build for 2010

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 12:49 PM

Realistically this should take me all of 2010, especially due to the paint scheme and how much time I have to work it. But, little bit of a jump start here. Working with the Academy F-22 and the Aires cockpit set. A few goals for the build:

1. Gear up, in flight mounting.
2. Weapons bays closed except the port side, preparing to fire either an AIM-9M or -9X. I plan the missles to be interchangeable via magnets like on the Strike Eagle.
3. Modified exhausts to capture the surface detail and maybe some of the structures seen on the tail booms.
4. Detailing the kit seat and cockpit to be more accurate. I plan to use the Aires set as a guide, but to save it for an eventual ground build. There are more than enough reference photos to dress the kit version up, especially with the zipper suited sky god firmly planted in the seat.
5. Likely will use a Tamiya Viper pilot, sinc the kit pilot inexplicably doesn't touch the control stick.
6. Extending the inlets so the engine faces are not visible.
7. Dressing up the AIM-9 launch rail a bit. Kit version is good, could be tweaked.

So, on to the obligatory cockpit section.... :P

First, some comparison shots of the kit and Aires parts. Not sure if this has been doe before, but always nice to see kit vs. resin. Judging from the referenc photos, the Aires (as expected) is pretty dead on.
Seats. Kit is not bad, could be better with some simple work. The red areas I plan to remove/replace. The side detail is only so interesting before it gets buried in an all black cockpit...
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Instrument panel. Aside from the blank areas at the bottom outside edges, the two are very similar. The Aires part has the coaming molded on, and the coaming is more richly detailed than the kit part molded into the upper fuselage.
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Top view of the pits. The Aires one is more accurate, especially the rear deck area, but it is actually a bit overdetailed in the rivets. There are some layout differences--the kit ejection rails are part of the seat, the canopy actuator mount point is a different piece, etc. Overall, and again with the pilot in place, the differences aren't too great for a canopy down build.
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Now on to some construction. First thing was to assemble the internal structures, starting with the center weapons bays. One thing that isn't obvious until you test fit is all the hinge points for the weapons bay doors need to be removed, otherwise the bay doors won't fit. Easier to do this before mounting the assembled bays... Once done, the big single piece door fit pretty well.
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For the nose and tailhook doors, those were practically drop ins. The MLG doors on the other hand did not fit without some edge sanding. I perhaps should have tried the two piece doors. What is interesting here is that Academy chose to mold details onto the single piece doors, even though by definition they will never be seen. This area was backfilled with copious amount of JB Weld to make sure they never EVER move or flex. The Cask of Amontillado ain't got nothin' on me when it comes to entombing parts.
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Finally, on to the dreaded inlets. I chose to assemble them in this fashion for a couple reasons. First, the bottomg edge (both inside and outside) seems to be the one that give people the most fits. I am quite sure the other inlet piece will mate up fairly seamlessly with what I have now. I'm not quite as sure how that will marry up to the upper edge, but, hey, we'll see, right? Second, this gives me a fairly sturdy nose section attachment. Third, I have access to sanding the seams and ejector pin marks, as well as fairng the inlet extensions when I figure out the plan for those. Not sure why ejector pin marks buried deep in an inlet all of a sudden bothered me, but a little voice told me that was the most critical part of the build to get right... :whistle:
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All for now.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 02:12 PM

Does the kit have the new Raptor helmet?

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 03:45 PM

Really interested to see how this will turn out. I'm planning to get the Hasegawa 1/48 Raptor soon so this could be very good reference.
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:52 AM

View Postelectric_indigo, on 22 December 2009 - 05:12 PM, said:

Does the kit have the new Raptor helmet?

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Unfortunately, no. Funny enough, that's the guy I got the kit from, call sign "Waco" over at ARC.
Here's my plan for the zipper suit. Pic below shows from left to right the Academy guy, an aftermarket JHMCS helmet (not for Raptor), and a standard Viper driver from Tamiya.
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Plan is to use the correct Academy head (with side, not front mounted O2 hose) and at least the right arm from a Tamiya driver. As you can see, the Academy guy can't hold the stick, really annoying considering the kit. I think they took a generic center stick guy and stuck him on the sprues instead of designing a new guy. Also not sure about the gee suit. The Tamiya is accurate for all other fighters, not sure if the Raptor has a new suit or Academy dropped some details (like the knee cutouts). Then again, judging from my F-15E, there is no way to see beyond the top of the thighs anywho with any detail, so not sure I need to worry about it.

Work continues on the ejection seat...coming along nicely, I think.
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 11:01 AM

WOOT F-22 Build. I'll be watching this for a while :D
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 01:57 PM

Considering how slow I'm going, yes, you will!
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 03:13 PM

Last update for today. Here's the mostly modified kit seat and cockpit. Not much, but adds a bit of 3-D to the tubes and cylinders. I'm not futzing with the back of the seat details as the canopy actuator covers the majority in a canopy down build.
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Still need to add a few knobs and such to those blank areas, then ready for paint.
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:06 PM

Hey this looks pretty good, but I am a bit confused, if you have the Aires cockpit, why are you modifying the kit's cockpit?
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 03:24 AM

(Could you fix the image sizes in your first posts please? It takes forever to load.)

What are those two pads behind the seat supposed to be?
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:56 AM

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Hey this looks pretty good, but I am a bit confused, if you have the Aires cockpit, why are you modifying the kit's cockpit?

I have 2 Raptors. This is kind of my "practice" one, and as it will be a canopy down build, I didn't want to use the Aires set. Likely the next one will be canopy down too, come to think of it!

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What are those two pads behind the seat supposed to be?

I think they may be part of the ECS system, but I honestly have no idea. Sorry about the pics--they've been knocked back to thumbs.
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 12:33 PM

Ok, time for a quick update. Been dorking around with the cockpit and zipper suit as a way of killing time to get my head around how to extend the inlets so the cheesy engine front face is hidden. And make copies for my second Raptor...

First, a simple but effective replacement of the canopy frame molded on handle with some scale appropriate wire.
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Next, the modified Frankenpilot. The right arm is Tamiya, the left upper arm from the kit, and the left forearm and hand from Tamiya. The original left arm had him grabbing at the mask, which meant the arm bend was wrong and the hand wasn't shaped to cup the throttle, so this was the ideal fix.
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Concerning the copper wire coming out of his butt, well "Don't mind this, Mr. Gopher...just Doctor's orders and so forth".

Now on to the pit. Next time it pops up, it will be painted. I added a few extra wires and reshaped the seat a number of times to get something that will look decent with the canopy down. I also monkeyed in some stuff where the blank panels were that will hold up OK unless I get an F-22 pilot with a flashlight looking at it...
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Turns out F-16 guys fit this LM cockpit setup pretty well. Since he is in flight and getting ready to take an AIM-9M shot, the throttle is forward and his other hand is on the stick. Not sure if F-22s accelerate when launching missiles to impart some kinetics or not, but it works mentally for me.
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 01:37 PM

It could be from the camera's perspective, but the pilot looks like he has his elbows positioned behind his back. For a comfortable position, he should sit a bit further to the back or into the seat and maybe a little higher?
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 02:19 PM

Part of it is the angle, part is I needed to resculpt his upper right arm. You'll note it is severely malformed in relation to the rest of him.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 08:46 PM

Some progress. Got paint on the zipper suit dude, and the bang seat is pretty much done. The figure was mildly modified. I took the air hose off the mask and made it the G-suit inflation hose. For the mask hose, I stripped a wire core twist tie, which had a mild steel ~25 gage wire inside. I chucked this in my pin vise, and spun a softer ~25 gage magnet wire around it. After painting the hose, I twisted a 30 gage magnet wire painted black around the hose. If I had been thinking ahead, I would have drilled a hole in the mask for the air hose and to anchor the comm line, as it was tricky to hold in place while wrapping. Added to that, the magnet wire doesn't hold paint for crap and is very fragile. Even primer doesn't stick well, so next time I'll have to figure a clever way to get the paint on. The whole air hose mod was really easy otherwise, and I'll never use a kit hose again.

The seat was base coated with MM Aircraft Interior Black, with the seat cushions in gloss black for contrast. The flight suit was originally MM Dark Green, which was (shocker) too dark. The overall tone was lightened with MM Forest Green, with the collar and some of the vest painted with MM Dark Slate to break it up. Polly S Olive Drab was used as a wash over it all, with a highlighting of Polly S Dark Green. The helmet is made up of MM Dark Slate & Gunship Gray, with gloss black on the visor and mask, silver for the mask bayonets. The seat belts are lead foil, painted with Dark Green tinted with silver to lighten it up and give it the right sheen.
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Keeping in mind the little guy is going to be under the gold tinted canopy, I think he's in pretty good shape.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 09:27 AM

Final touches on the dude and seat. Applied decals, touched up the paint, and put a coat of Tamiya clear Smoke on the visor to give it a bit of depth and greater gloss.
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Ug. The stupid black paint peeled from the stupid red magnet comm wire. Oh well, it can't be seen in the finished kit. Basically anyhting below the level of the Dude's arms can't be seen at all, obscured by the cockpit tub.

I'll touch it up anyways, but it can't be seen. Now on to the cockpit tub and controls.
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