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#1 ClimaX

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 07:12 PM

Hey, I am new to the model scene, so bare with me. I have a backround in art but this is my first time working with models. I am still researching some anime models to purchase but i need some questions to be cleared up.

1. Is it better to paint resin models with air brushes or with brushes? Or dose it matter? What is the difference? Air brushes seems to be expensive, so would it be fine to paint the models with plain brushes instead?

2. Do you have any suggestions in which models i should purchase that is cheap and easy for my first time?

3. Is it fine to use other paints (eg. Golden, Tri-art arcylics, etc) besides the specific model paints?

4. What kind of brushes is best for thse models? Any specfic kind?

Thanx for time :)

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 07:31 PM

ClimaX, on Dec 7 2004, 10:12 PM, said:

Hey, I am new to the model scene, so bare with me. I have a backround in art but this is my first time working with models. I am still researching some anime models to purchase but i need some questions to be cleared up.

1. Is it better to paint resin models with air brushes or with brushes? Or dose it matter? What is the difference? Air brushes seems to be expensive, so would it be fine to paint the models with plain brushes instead?

2. Do you have any suggestions in which models i should purchase that is cheap and easy for my first time?

3. Is it fine to use other paints (eg. Golden, Tri-art arcylics, etc) besides the specific model paints?

4. What kind of brushes is best for thse models? Any specfic kind?

Thanx for time :)
Hi and welcome climax.  what kits are you interested in? some people yield better results with an airbrush. than a handbrush, unless your handbrushing skills are immaculate and  stroke free.

also paint preference is something to discover. some people use craft store paint, some buy acrylics from hobby shops. some people use enamels and some people import lacquers.

could you post links to the models which interest you and perhaps we can further getting you started?

P.S. welcome!  this is a friendly place :) feel free to ask questions.

#3 ClimaX

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 07:47 PM

Some models that interest me are:

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 07:50 PM

And:


(These models are currently out of stock but hopefully they will get some in soon) I am probably not going to use the colour used in these models.

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 07:59 PM

those are bold choices :) but i didn't hesitate in building the harder looking ones after making two or three. what's your art background? are you familiar with detailing sculptures?

(also a thing about the garage kit industry ....most of the time, one it's gone ... i'ts gone  :( )

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 08:27 PM

I have done some painting with other models such as warhammer and created my own models out of clay. But with resin models, is it different?

What do you mean by detailing sculptures?


Here's one of my many models that i sculpted with clay and painted .

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 08:40 PM

:blink: I see a future in garage kit modeling for you, ClimaX. You definitely have a grasp of depth and how to exploit it.

when i mention detailing, I'm referring to paying attention to the little things. shading, and details mostly. If you've painted clay sculptures already you should be able to take to garage kits like a duck to water.

here's Cody's Coop: http://www.codyscoop.com/ many of us here started out as curious as you and have found this site to be a garage-kit builder's bible :) I stared at this site for a month before I got started on a kit of my own.

At first i was intimidated but after making my first kit i was hooked. As you get into it you will surprisingly find it easier than first anticipated and very rewarding :)

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 08:48 PM

Haha thanx for your help, "duct to water" how origional ;)

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 09:02 PM

Whats the term masking mean? I was reading in the cody scoop site and it says "It is difficult to get a uniform surface with brushes alone, but it is possible and is a very useful skill to have, if you hate masking with a passion like I do."

Im planning to do my models with brushes instead of airbrushes (too much $$$) but what dose masking do with using normal brushes?

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 09:10 PM

if you're good with a handbrush you won't need to mask :)

masking is simply the act of concealing or protecting a surface with tape to prevent it from being painted, typically it's used by airbrush artists, but some hand brushers have found value to it too

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 09:17 PM

Ahh thanks again :) Your like a Hobbyfanatics dictionary

I will stop bugging you now :P. Untill then when i decide to get my model and have it in my hands, i'll come to you if i run into troubles :)

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 09:37 PM

Hey Climax and welcome to the forums. I hope you have a wonderful time here with us. :D  Now to answer some of your questions...

1. It really doesn't matter what you use. It all depends on what you feel more comfortable with. It all comes down to whatever your heart desires. Yes airbrushes are a little bit more expesive then hand brushes, believe me i know from experience!!! :)

2. About what models to start with... its you choice. You could start with simple models and then move up to more complex models, or it could be the other way around or in between. Its all up to you! However most modelers would tell you to start with simple models, where the majority of the painting is skin. :o

3. You can use whatever type of paints you like, shoot, you can even use spray cans to paint your kits. :lol:

4. Its a good thing if you have a variety of sizes. You may use the bigger brushes to paint over large areas and you can use the smaller brushes to paint over concave and small areas. Its also a good thing to have a fine brush, so that you can paint details such as eyes, mouth, eyebrows, outlines of the eyes, details on clothing, etc...

I hope i was of help and if you ever need anything or have a question don't hesitate to ask us, we are all here to help you and eachother.
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Posted 08 December 2004 - 04:11 AM

Welcome to the forums ClimaX! :welcome:

i doubt i can add anything more since im not that experienced, enjoy your stay :D

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Posted 08 December 2004 - 06:06 AM

Welcome to the forum!
I'm a new modeler, only completed two kits, and I handbrush. Handbrushing is fine, it just takes longer to complete a figure.
For a first kit I would look for something without too many small details, unless you have really steady hands. Also it's a good idea not to buy a kit that you absolutely love since the first one is going to be such a learning experience and you're probably not going to be too happy with the results. Some people never even finish their first. Picking a kit without too many different colors is also a good idea since mixing colors is a pain.
I would look through this section of the forum for other tips. For instance, for the shading I would recommend using pastels rather than washes. It was such a nightmare for me trying to use a wash correctly, which means diluting the paint until it runs in the crevices. I have only used a black and brown pastel, so a great expenditure of money is not required.
For brushes I would get some flats in a few different sizes, 2 & 4 maybe, then some detail brushes for the eyes and such. I have as small as a 25/0 brush. You could also take a larger brush and cut hairs away until it's the size you want.
Masking is using masking tape to prevent paint from applying to certain areas. It's just like masking off a room when you paint it. Masking shouldn't be necessary for handbrushing since you will have control when painting where two colors meet. If an accident happens and you get the wrong color of paint somewhere, you could paint over with the original color or I sometimes scrape it away with my x-acto knife, but that's just me.

Anyway, good luck and just have fun!
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Posted 08 December 2004 - 06:39 AM

Welcome Climax.

My guess is that if you've been painting the warhammer figures and sculpting and painting your own work you have all the "tools" you'll need in this hobby!  ;)

I suspect we'll be seeing many great works from you in the future.

And please excuse the delay in response. A little drama in this forum lately has been diverting attention. Don't mind that, we're really a great bunch. No really!  :lol:

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